This is a very made-up question. दिख रहा है कि कुछ तो झोल-झाल है। अच्छा story नही बोल रहा है, I will ask a question. ऐसा है ये। तुम लोग बहुत smart है, लेकिन उस्तादी उस्ताद से? Come on man. I have gone through all of these steps myself. You cannot fool me. But I will tell you what my story is.
So in the beginning, when I first took my Happiness Program, from day one, when I first took my happiness program, I can also say this, a long long time ago in a world far far away, वैसे भी बोल सकता हूँ। So क्या है, at that time the Happiness Program was like five days, you know, लम्बा। How did I get there? How did I get there also? How did I get to the first? That's also a good story. So क़्या हूआ? You know, a boy was born in 1970! पूरा बोलू life story? कर देता हू process. खत्म कर तू आज।
Okay, so somehow things happened and this joker landed up at IIT. And then in IIT there was a hostel and he made lot of friends in the hostel and then eventually what happened that this joker, he was working in a national chemical lab and this girl walks in through the door and he says, dude, this is it. लगे हाथ आ रही है तो, why not? So then he gets married to this girl and then somehow come to America. This has got nothing to do with how I ended up with the course but you said start at the beginning. So I am starting at the beginning. और भी बोल सकता हूँ। I can keep on talking irrelevant stuff. So point is this.
So with this girl, he is living in America and one of his IIT friends comes and visits them. One of our friends comes and visits us and we know, Madhuri and I, we know this guy from our India days and when we see this guy, there is little bit of peace and calm in him. He's a different fellow from what we knew him, what I knew him from IIT days and what my wife knew him after we got married and was hanging around in Pune. So there was something different. So then my wife asked him the correct question. My wife asked him, Vikas, what are you doing? You have this feeling of settledness. What are you doing? You know what question I asked him? I asked him, what drugs are you on? This is my question to him. So this is the approach. When I'm telling you that I've fallen through every hole that is to fall through, this is my approach. What drugs are you taking?
So he says, you know, there is this Sudarshan Kriya course and stuff. He told. So my wife, highly sincere girl, she looks up Sudarshan Kriya thing and the closest course is in Philadelphia. We are living in Wilmington. So if you look at the map of the United States, Philadelphia is midway between New York and Washington DC. And we are about 45 minutes south of Philadelphia in the city called Wilmington. So closest course is in Philadelphia. So she said, let's go. I said, no, no, I'm not driving to Philadelphia. It's like driving to Mumbai. Traffic, 40 minutes going up and down five days a week. No chance. I'm not going to Philadelphia. I put my foot down. I mean, if you can believe that I'm like a rat in front of her, but fine. I put my foot down for whatever it's worth.
So then she said, all right, fine. Then we got busy in our life. And then it turned out that the course was being offered in the University of Delaware campus in Newark. So Newark is the university city of the University of Delaware. So she said, OK, there is a course in Newark. Now I have no opposition because there is no parking problem. It's all in the same state. I said, all right, fine, I will go. So she twisted my ear and she dragged me to this course. That's how I came to the course.
So on the course, what happens? The instructor asked the question, at that time we used to ask the question, what are you looking for? Why are you here? You know, all this stuff. So all the other course participants, they said, you know, I've got I want to clear my mind and I want to find peace and I want to do this and I want to do that. All this ऐसे heavy answer. मेरा answer क्या था मालूम है? I said, dude, I don't want anything from this course. I just want to see what all the fuss is all about. What are you doing? Breathing and this nonsense techniques. This is my answer. So I'm telling you, I'm setting the stage कि इतना उल्लू आदमी जो गया था course में। Left brained, IIT trained, you think you're like the king of the world.
So then all right. So the instructor said, all right, fine. But you will not get the experience unless you participate on the course. You know, it's like learning to learn swimming. You want to learn swimming. Michael Phelps का book पढ़के you cannot learn swimming. You have to jump into the water. It's like this. So correct. So I said, all right, fine, I will jump into the water. So I did the course and I found that first Kriya, oh wow. So there is some release happening and I felt light, etc. After the fifth day, I thought, that's it done.
And then after one week, somebody asked me, are you doing your home practice? I said, okay, what is home practice? What the heck are you meaning home practice? Course is over, money is over, and the end of story, done. They said, no, no, no, you have to do the Kriya every day. I said, what the heck? Kriya every day? I forgot. But my wife, she does it every day. So I said, all right, तू मेरे को सीखा वापस। So she taught me again. Hand positions, 20, 40, 40. Still, I was highly regular in my Kriya. I used to do once every seven days. Regular. Once every seven days, why? Because we have to go to the long Kriya to drive. So once every seven days हो गया, people would say, are you doing your Kriya regularly? I said, yes, regularly. ये रेगुलरली वर्ड ही उल्लू है। पागल जैसा वर्ड है ये। Regularly means nothing. Daily, the answer is daily. But at that time I was regular.
Then Guruji said, no, no. Then what happened? So then these guys tricked me. They told me, oh Sandeep, so the local teacher and Madhuri and all these people, they ganged up and said, we have to trick him. So they said, Sandeep, let's go to New New York for sightseeing. तो मैं बोला चल जाते हैं।
So, we drove to New York. This was like a 3-hour drive from us. Then वहाँ पर पहोचनें के बाद, they said, you know Sandeep, there is this thing at the Art of Living Centre, तो वहाँ जाते हैं। I said we will go there for 5 minutes and then we will go to the city. I went there for 5 minutes. There was Guruji there. There was a whole mess. We registered and sat down. I said, what is this? White sheets and people were saying "Oh Jai Gurudev". I said, where have I come? I did not feel very comfortable there.
So then I sat. Guruji came. I said wow man. This guy, I could feel it. I said let me see. There was a question-answer session. Whenever the question was asked, I would answer the question in my head. I would wait for Guruji's answer. I would say this is going to be 50-50. Half of them I will be right, half of them he will be right. So the score started Guruji 1, Sandeep 0. Guruji 2, Sandeep 0. Guruji 20, Sandeep 0. Guruji 75, Sandeep 0. I am saying what the heck? How come I did not get even one question correct? Correct means his answer is always better than my answer. I said, what is this? Alright, this guy is a smart fellow.
So then he got up at the end of the thing. Jai Jai Radha Raman started and I did not know what the heck that meant. What the heck is Jai Jai Radha Raman? But everybody started getting up. I said okay, this is the end of the story. So I got up and somehow there was a line that formed. I did not even know what the line was. So I was standing and then Guruji came like this walking. It was supposed to be Darshan line but how would I know? I do not know any of this stuff. All these white sheet kind of people, Kuku Log. So I was standing in the line.
So Guruji, he was walking and he came and stood in front of me. And I said alright. And he says पूछो। He has to tell me to ask him the question. He says पुछो। I said oh. I said Guruji, what do you think about string theory? No, I did not say Guruji. I just said what do you think about string theory? So he looked like this and he said हाँ। Finally, the scientists have figured out that everything is vibration. And he took one step ahead. I said यार ये तो धाँसू answer है। This is an amazing answer. Like I never thought of it like this.
Then he turned around. And he said you should teach. And till this day I am convinced that he did not tell me. I am thinking he was talking to the guy who was standing behind me. But Janata is telling that no he told you to teach. I said how can he tell me to teach? I am not even doing my kriya everyday. काहे का teach? What the heck is teach? So I ignored that. I said छोड़। I was convinced that he was speaking to the guy behind me.
So then he left and I was feeling a little bit good. I said yaar this is maybe not so bad. And then in that session, he had said about the importance of seva. I remembered that. And I said चल I will start doing seva. So what I said, I told my local teacher that I will commit.
So at that time, we did not even have a centre. So we were doing Kriya in a church. We would rent a room in a church and once a week on Tuesday evenings we would go and do the long kriya there. So in that room, there would be people during the day who would walk with shoes and all this. So we had a whole set of white sheets. Remember this whole white sheet organization? I was part of that organization. So we had white sheets and we would spread the white sheets and Janata would come and sit and do the kriya there.
So my seva commitment was that I will bring the white sheets to the Kriya place every Tuesday. That was my only commitment for seva. That's it. That's how I started. But what does that do? That does many things. That lets you put this as priority number one in life and everything has to be going around it. Because you can't say that चल आज मैं नहीं आरहा हूँ। Janata will not get white sheets. So कैसे करेगा? You cannot do like that. So if you cannot go for some reason, then you have to find a way to give the white sheets to someone else who is going. All this stuff.
Whole mindset changes when you just commit to doing a little bit of seva. You know, your whole priority stuff, everything changes. Good. So then what happened? Then I went to my first Silence course. I mean, in the United States, we call it Silence course. In India, you call it what? Advanced course or something like that. I know. So I went to my first Silence course. This was in Montreal Ashram in Canada. Remember in the Physics of Pranayama, I tell you the story about oatmeal. Oh, that was the course. That was the oatmeal course. There is no poha, upma, nothing. Oatmeal. So anyway, I had the oatmeal and all that thing happened. So in that course, there was a meditation, which I will not share the experience now because it's just too heavy. But there was an experience there that it was obviously the gift from the guru. Let's put it this way. Leave it at that.
So then I came back from the Silence course. I said, yeah, this is good. But by this time, my wife had done TTC one. She was on fast track. At that time, it was TTC one, TTC two. So she had done TTC one. And then she had committed to organize a course for Mikey. Mikey is Michael Fishman. He was at that time the president of Art of Living. So Mikey said, OK, I will come. So she organized. I mean, she worked like amazing, you know, single handedly. Now, this was so many years ago. Single. She and one more person, Hari. These two people. They single handedly organized 75 people course. You might think 75 people is a very small number, all the India people. तूम लोगों का तो 750 is a small number, but fine. हम लोगो के लिए 75 was a big number at that time. Single handedly ऑर्गेनाइज किया यार। So Mikey came. Mikey is a very strict fellow. So all. So he was staying with a teacher's house and that teacher's a little bit scared of Mikey. So she said, Sandeep you take care of Mikey. So I picked him up at the airport and drove him to the house. Then I cooked for him, made chai for him, etc. And I said, yaar ये आदमी चाय पी रहा है, he's not such a bad guy because, you know, I'm a fan of chai. So then we hung out like this.
And then I had done at that time something unique. So we had these discs, the VCD or VCD, you know, you remember the VCD disc? Ashtavakra VCD disc set था। I had taken that and I had digitized it in an iPod format. So I put it on my iPod. I had an iPod. So in the evening after the course, when Janta was hanging out, I said to Mikey, Mikey, I'll show you something. So I connected the iPod to the TV and I played the video from my iPod and it came on the TV and Mikey was just stunned. He says, wait a minute. What have you done? Right. So then I explained to him, you know, there's this digitization software and you do it, all this stuff he did. So that that was the start of. So after I explained to Mikey all this, he sent me the DVD versions of Ashtavakra. I had the VCD version. He sent me the DVD version. So I digitized entire Ashtavakra DVD version, sent it to him. I showed him how to do that. And that was the start of now, you see, all the Silence, Silence course teachers nowadays, they carry iPod. All the videos are on iPod. That was the start of it. I started the digitization of all those Silence course videos to put on iPod so that the people don't have to carry tapes and this and that. They can just carry one iPod. That was the start of it.
So in that series of interactions, Mikey asked me one question. How many days are you going to be like this? I said, what's wrong with this? This is perfection. What the heck are you talking about? I mean, what do you mean? He said, no, no, come on, you take the next step. Come for TTC. I said, what the heck? TTC? First I should do the Kriya every day. Then we will see. And then what happened? I was still not 100% committed. So then Mikey said, you know, I've written a book. I've written a book and I'm looking for somebody to help me publish it. And he asked Madhuri that, Madhuri, can you help me publish the book? And Madhuri said, yes. And I was listening to this whole conversation. I was thinking, ये सब काम मेरे पर आने वाला है। Madhuri says, yes, which means I have to do the work. And she was pretty smart because once then after that, she said, Mikey, maybe Sandeep can also do. I got stuck there.
So then we got the unpublished version. It was like a typewritten thing. So we read it, and I was totally moved by that story. So I said fine, I will help you publish it. So then I looked at the whole process of book publication and book proposals and all this I wrote, and we sent it to so many publishers, etc. I got so many rejection letters from the publishers that I could put all those rejection letters on the ceiling of my apartment, and it would completely fill the whole ceiling. इतना rejection letters आया। Finally, one person agreed, and then that book was published. It's called *Stumbling into Infinity*. Read that book. It's really good. It's Mikey story. And if you read the acknowledgment section, you will see that my name will appear in just like a tiny 8-point font somewhere.
So this was the whole thing, and then I was thinking, yeah, okay, this guy, he walks the talk. So I will go and do TTC one with Mikey because now I'm thinking Mikey is my friend. I helped him publish the book. So I'll be taken care of on TTC one. He just destroyed me on TTC one. He just took me apart. ऐसा पूरा जो भी मेरा self image का concept था वो कचरा कर दिया। Completely. I said, साला ये तो मेरा friend है यार। ये क्या चल रहा है? What the heck is going on? This was the rebuilding process that started. He completely destroyed me on TTC one. And then he became my friend also. I mean he took care of me also.
So then after that, I wanted to do TTC two. At that time, it was TTC one, TTC two. So then TTC two was announced. And there was a lot of chaos in my office. There was a high, high visibility project. So we were working for Boeing at that time, and our membranes units that are on airplanes, they were not functioning. And Boeing was getting very annoyed, and there would be a lawsuit and all this. Boeing is a big giant, and ours is a very small company compared to Boeing. So that whole chaos was going on, and I was the technical lead to solve this problem for the Boeing product. वो process में how to take two weeks off? Boss को जाके बोलूं, boss two weeks मैं नहीं आरा हूँ। वो बोलेगा घर पर ही रह तू। Don't even come back after two weeks. Just stay at home.
So then I told Mickey, नहीं हो सकता, I cannot come because my office work etc. I cannot come. And then what happened? So now let's say TTC is starting on Saturday morning. Saturday morning—नहीं, Saturday evening. It was like, okay, the course will start in the evening on Saturday. So I had not applied—nothing. Application deadline is midnight on Friday. Midnight on Friday applications have to be completed. Fees have to be paid. And only then you can come on Saturday evening for the course. Janta had applied everything. There's a whole project also. Before TTC also, there was a project to be done. So since I was not going to TTC, I was not even part of that project.
So Friday, 4 pm, Madhuri and I went to see a movie. The movie is called *Three Idiots*. This is the Friday of the deadline of TTC. We went to see *Three Idiots*. So in *Three Idiots*, there is this one scene where the guy says he had a scholarship. He had a scholarship and he had a job interview. And then somebody says, after many years you will think that the taxi was at the door. If you had taken this scholarship, then life would have been different. There is this whole scene. I said, this scene is written for me. TTC is at the door. If I had taken TTC, then life would have been different. All this thought was going on in my head.
So during the drive back, it was like a 35-minute drive back from the theater to home. I was just thinking about this, and Madhuri was not talking because she knows that I am thinking about something. So she is not talking. It's very rare that she didn't bang me over the head. But it's one of the few moments that I escaped unscathed. I was driving and came back. And then I was telling Madhuri, कल से TTC चालू है। She said, she didn't say anything.
Then I called one of my friends and I said, you know, I'm not coming for TTC. She said, Oh, what do you mean you're not coming for TTC? You have to come for TTC. I said, यार एक और signal. Then I said, okay, so there's like a secret link for even to get the registration form, because only the people who are doing the pre-TTC project are sent that link to apply for it. So, you know, so Alak was the person I called. Alak is now one of the secretariats in the Guruji US office. So Alak told me, okay, I will send you the link. So unofficially I got the link for even applying for the TTC. So I filled out the link. And Madhuri said, now this is two weeks TTC, so laundry has to be done, all this other stuff. Right. I cannot, I need clean clothes, etc. So Madhuri said that, don't worry, I will take care of all the laundry to be done. That was also the first and the only time that she has done my laundry. Otherwise, it's usually the other way around. You know, I'm doing the laundry of the house. But that one day she took care of laundry. Fine.
So then I wrote my application and I said, यार, before I submit it, I have to call and get permission from Mikey. Because I already told him I'm not coming and I didn't do any of the project. So he will feel that I'm taking advantage of the fact that I know him. So I called Mikey and he picked up the phone. And I thought he's just going to let me have it on the phone. So I said, Mikey, is it OK if I come for TTC? And I was waiting for the whole process to start and he says, OK, and he put down the phone. I said, what is this? So then I said, all right, now this is good. So I started typing feverishly all my application and I submitted the application. I still have the timestamp of it. It was eleven fifty seven p.m. Three minutes before the deadline, I submitted the application.
Then in the morning I did all the laundry, etc. I packed my bags. And I went to TTC. In the process, what happened on the Thursday of that week? The lawyers got involved. So our company lawyers and the Boeing company lawyers got involved to work out the frame agreement to do this project work. And that frame agreement slowed down the whole process, it delayed it by three weeks, so I could go for two weeks. The project was not the project was not going to be because anyway, the lawyers were involved, so all the work had stopped on the project. So I told my boss, कि अभी मैं 2 week जा रहा हूँ। I'll check my email. If something happens, I will come back. I'm right here in DC. Don't worry.
So I went. Two weeks vacation I took. I went. The whole TTC was done. So this is how I ended up in TTC, like the shortest application time. That's how I came to TTC. And it is a good process, TTC good process. I thought in TTC I'm not even going to get the manual because you know what? In the last day, there's a whole there's a whole box where all the manuals are kept. And one by one, they will call the person and they will give the manual one by one. And it's alphabetical. So when my name came, they didn't call my name. I said, OK, then they called the next one. Next one, next one, next one. No, good. Then they called my name, the last one. And then before he gave me the manual, that that silk cloth that they used to cover all the manuals with, he took that and he put that as one of those, you know, how they put like a thing. He said, all right. So he put that on my head, on my neck, and he said, all right, here is the manual. So it was. It was quite something at that time, I had to say something because. Yeah, that was a big experience. So, you know, so this joker who didn't even who did Kriya regularly once, once every seven days. I said, OK, reached TTC. Yeah, so if I can do it, anybody can do it. It's like this. I mean. I'm the lowest common denominator. If I can do, anybody can do. Year of HP, I did my first course in 2003. The course was happening when I was in the campus also, all these Bawa, Kashi, all these people are from my time on the campus, but I ran away from all these jokers. I said, these people are crazy. I ran away from them. Then I came here in 2003.
I could have done the course in, I don't know, 1995 or 2004 or something like that. In 2003, I did the course. So every dog has his day. My day came, I did the course. It's like that. But this was the process. Anyhow, so I've done everything. I've done every instruction that Guruji has given. I have said no. I will independently verify. He says, do seva, your meditation will be deep. I said, "हट, नहीं करता हूँ सेवा। I will not do seva." So my meditation goes in the tank. Then I said, "All right, fine." Then I said, "Start doing seva." Then the quality of meditation increases. Like this, I've fallen through every hole